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    Hey guys
    I have never owned a mk1 before or a vw in general so this is going to be my first vw. I might be picking up and 84 gti and the guy I'm buying it from it, did a swap on it. I think he converted it to a fuel injection and after the swap the car never started up. The car has a new battery.

    What do you guys think can be causing this? I need to know before I actually buy the car. I am really interested in the car.

    Any help is appreciated.

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    its a stock 1.8 that came with it and it has a 2.0 head on it

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    if the guy who did the swap doesnt know whats wrong with it. i would step away and never look back.... for all you know it could be siezed but he could say its just a fuel problem....

    if the motor doesnt kick over on its own without work, i wont even look at the car.
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    how much would a stock 1.8 swap cost me or a 2.0?

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    if your going to do a swap, do a 1.8t or vr6

    but you can prolly pick up a 1.8 for 300 ish

    and the swap is fairly easy.... easy enough it can be done in a hotel parking lot in a day :P






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    thanks man i was looking to track it in the future what do you think would be a good motor to run?

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    track, i would do a vr6, with a built top end (port / polish / cams / lifters etc.)

    and i choose that set up for a track motor over a 1.8t because the vr will be instant power, no turbo lag etc.
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    if i was to do a vr6 how much would it cost me and how about fabrication.

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    im not sure about mk1. but with mk2 you need a donor car. so i assume the same for mk1
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jsilva970 View Post
    im not sure about mk1. but with mk2 you need a donor car. so i assume the same for mk1
    Just find a passat with it.

    Honestly, a built 2.0 ABA with a 02a with the g60 flywheel/clutch and a 20v 1.8t head is a monster motor. Much lighter than a vr too
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    If you have to come on a forum and ask why your car is not starting and posting no details about it I think I would think twice about doing a engine swap yourself. If you do I would go with something simple that will bolt right up and start up when you add a battery and a fuel line. In a Mk1 I would go with a peppy 4 cylinder as it will be light and easy to install, VR6 or 1.8t in a mk1 is quite a bit of work and not a direct bolt up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 07GTIMYFAST View Post
    If you have to come on a forum and ask why your car is not starting and posting no details about it I think I would think twice about doing a engine swap yourself. If you do I would go with something simple that will bolt right up and start up when you add a battery and a fuel line. In a Mk1 I would go with a peppy 4 cylinder as it will be light and easy to install, VR6 or 1.8t in a mk1 is quite a bit of work and not a direct bolt up.
    I didn't post any details because the car isn't mine yet. The owner wasn't available at the time i saw the car, so i couldn't ask him questions about the car. I have done engine swaps before. If i knew what was wrong I would of posted a detailed post. I wanted to get an idea of what would be wrong with the car before i bought it.

    Now, I have talked to the owner. It is a 2.0 ABA with a 1.8 head. The car doesn't get spark. It cranks, and it gets compression. There just isn't any spark though.

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    volkswagen... electrical issues... who woulda thought.
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    Which 1.8 head?

    As for no spark, is the dizzy good? Rotor, cap? Timing right? Dizzy harness have power? Spark plugs and wires good?
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    I am picking up the car on Sunday. As soon as I get it to the garage I'll start diagnosing.

    Thanks for all the help.

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    over all do you guys think this is a good deal its a grey 83 rabbit gti it has a 2.0 aba with a port and polished head with a cam, has rear disk, its lowered on some coil overs. it has about pencil size rust on the passenger side floor board. and the interior is all gutted out expect for front two seats and dash. the only thing is the engines not getting spark. for $400

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    for 400

    the car can be a good project car
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    the car can be a good project car
    I'd buy it in a heart beat if the shell was in really good condition
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    the shell is in good condition i guess i am going to pick it up on sunday thanks for all the help guys

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    so finally picked up the car today. the car has a 1.8 head on it and the guy gave me a 2.0 head i was wondering if the 2.0 would just bolt right on and the 1.8 thats on it has a cam in it if i decided to put the 2.0 on would i be able to put the cam in it as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by my slow gti View Post
    so finally picked up the car today. the car has a 1.8 head on it and the guy gave me a 2.0 head i was wondering if the 2.0 would just bolt right on and the 1.8 thats on it has a cam in it if i decided to put the 2.0 on would i be able to put the cam in it as well.
    2.0 will bolt in. Not sure about the cams but something tells me it isn't that easy...
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    i went back to the car today i messed with the dizzy and i don't think it was that. but there was this brown wire that was attacked to the battery terminal. in the process of towing the car the wire came off and i put the wire back on the terminal and went to start it and as usual it cranked and than it back fired which it never did when the wire was off. and i still couldnt get it to run.

    a quick question how an i check if the timing is off and how can i fix the timing

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    Brown wire = ground wire

    As for timing, there are alignment marks
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    where would i align the marks? I have never done timing before, i have noobish questions.

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    I'll wait for Wilson to chime in, he has more info on that.
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    cam timing or ignition timing?

    if ignition you usually can rotate the crank to the TDC mark and make sure the dizzy is rotated to where the rotor is making contact on the leading edge of cylinder 1 on the cap.

    then play with it a few degrees from there once you get it running.
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    Also if you have not done so a test light or volt meter will help you run down any ignition problems.
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    What about cam timing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by my slow gti View Post
    What about cam timing?
    also should have the crank at TDC and (most of the time) the cam timing mark will line up parallel to the head or a mark on the head. Post pics of the motor and close ups of the cam gear and head.
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    will do so tomorrow the car is in my buddies garage which if about 30 mins from my house
    thanks for all the help really appreciate it. and i noticed something else the distributer is not a stock one it doesnt have the vacum on it

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    that should not be a huge deal, it's probably a mechanical advance dist. I think the idea is they are better for performance while vacuum advance are better for fuel economy.
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    ok thanks

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    so i went back today and i did the cam timeing and the igniton timeing and i the ditributer was alittle of. and when i went to crank it it was much better felt like it was going to start any minute. and i had some one move the distibuter alittle and it would back fire like crazy. i dont know where to go from here

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    Today it felt like it was going to start. It would turnover and go back to cranking and never actually started. From there it all went back to square one. I need help ASAP. I have CIS fuel injection. I will be posting a video soon.

    Thanks

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    so i kinda gave up. its way to frustrating, i had a question the car has a 2.0aba with a 1.8 port and polished head with a cam. i want to swap it with a 2.0 head. i am gone be honest every time i look at the engine its just a bunch of wires and hoses. i was wondering how hard it would be to swap the 2.0 head with the 1.8. and would i have to modify the fuel system.
    thank you

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    Aba is fuel injected
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    I know.

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    Pending the stuff you snag, it's either obd1 or obd2.

    Is the 1.8 setup on digifant?

    Need more info on current setup
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    Whats digifant?

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