Revo flashed Mk5 Vs Honda s 2000.

[Teh Chr!s]

Originally Posted by SimplyRevs

Do you guys understand that my S2000 when it was completely stock, ran a better time then probably 75-80% of you stage 2 guys? And I'm talking about off the show room stock. You guys really need to bump into a well driven s2000 before you just shoot them down, and talk **** about them. I'm not saying that their fast by any means, because in the world of actual fast cars out there, neither are anywhere near the middle of the pack, let alone the top. But when driven correctly, the S2000 is a faster car then its reputation precedes.


Most basic stage 2 MKV's (I/DP/Chip) will probably lose in a drag race to a well driven s2000. I can comply and realize this is a GTIforum, so of coarse its going to be pro GTI. But reality is reality. And the reality that a stock S2000 is capable of running 13.6's @ 102 mph stock down to the tire, seems a little far fetched for some of you I can see.

What do most (key word) stage 2 GTI's run at the track? How about stage 1's? Stock?

I have probably 5 or 6 good friends with bolt-on MK5's. Two are DSG equipted with LC, and the others are 6 speed. The best stock time anyone of them ran was one of the DSG cars, who went 14.6@94mph! 94 mph! You honestly think a car trapping in the mid 90's will actually have the ability to pull on a well driven car that traps in the 100's?!?! Nooo. You'd be much better off trying your luck with a stock RSX-s, who stock runs in the 14.5 range trapping ~94-95. But not an S2000.

Modding: My buddies run with 3 different companies when it came time for the ECU work. One runs with USP motorsports who specialize in APR tuned cars. He now has stage 2 software, with EVOms intake, 3" APR DP, forge DV, and a short shifter to go along with his back seats taken out. He ran his car at Fixxfest last year with these same mods and couldn't break a 14.1, and was only trapping ~ 98-99mph at bradenton! SO he tried out a different track down here...Moroso....No better luck. Still a low 14 second car. That was a 6 speed, with APR.

My boy has a Fahrenheit DSG MKV. He chose the GIAC route. He has evoms intake, 3" ATP DP, connected to a TWE exhaust, short shift kit, methanol, and I forgot something else I'm sure.. Anyway, he didn't run at the track yet, but yet he gets pulled on from a roll by the same 6 speed APR car that traps ~ 100mph. Hmmm...

I've seen freak times of stage 1 MKV's running like a 13.9@98 or some ****. It really makes me wonder what kind of tires they were using, because I find it funny none of the stage 2 guys around me down here in south Florida (there are a **** ton of you) seem to run that hard. They have hell of 2nd and 3rd gears, getting you all excited about how fast the car feels with 300ft. lbs. But yet they die out, and end up losing that same race they were just stedily pulling in, top end. Why is this?

I now have a bolt-on all motor S2000 which currently runs a 12.9@107mph. You may see why I take some offence to some of the comments in here. I know what the car can do, and what it can not. But stage 1 and stock GTI MKV's really shouldn;t even be a race for a well driven S2000.

Originally Posted by Silverstonejedi

You guys are ALL fools..Say waht you will post. Until you find competition mod for mod, then talk crap. You guys can NEVER compare to an S2k on ANY level. You want FI? You will NEVER surpass the s2k. Set it up locally and I'll show you what an s2k can do...Stop talking crap over the internet and man up...Socal here....pm me and we can basically set something up for every caliber GTI you wanna bring...Cant wait! You are all pee wee's that can never compete.

O Jesus Christ Not These Fools Again .........

[SimplyRevs]

Originally Posted by dlight88

And who the f*ck are you again? You're the one comin in here sh*t talkin. As for forced induction VW does it, and always will do it better, our motors are built stronger to handle boost, the weakest part fails at over 300 ft/lbs, which is more than the turbo can throw at it what about you?


I'll stare here.

You are obviously misinformed if you think VW "ALWAYS does it better, and that your motors are stronger to handle boost".

From the factory, yes they are. They were designed and intended with the help of a snail for power. That's what they are. Without the turbo, how strong exactly do you believe your motor would be?? It excels at what it was designed for.

Now say you throw a snail on the s2000. Some of you might get a wrong impression about what the car is capable of because of the all motor technology that went into the Honda. It wasn't designed for boost. Thus having a sky high compression ratio. And if you didn't already know, boost adds extreme amounts of high pressure to the cylinders. As if 11.1 or 11.5/1 isn't already enough. This is why most stock Honda motors would only be able to run minimal amounts of boost (10-14 psi for the s2000 in particular). However, once you change the pistons alone, (rods can stay) to lower the compression to say a 9.0 or maybe even lower if you plan on running high amounts of boost, all of a sudden that Honda can hold 4-5-600whp. Infact, we have this one guy who has made 644RWHP still using the stock block. You may think, yeah, but how long until it blows....Well dude has been driving it everyday for the last 2 1/2 years. The part you guys don't understand is how relabile Honda's are when built correctly. Reliabilty is Honda's bread and butter.



The real actual point of contention on these cars is stock turbo so if you guys want to slap on a s-chrgr or turbo, let us get the same one, you;ll soon see that you will be quickly eating your words,


Umm, no not exactly bud. When the Honda throws on say a GT35r, or say even something bigger, tuned your talking 5-6-700whp. Sure there are a ton of older VR's running around holding it down nicely, but how many GTI MKV's are anywhere near that mark??

How many GTI MKV's have run 8 second 1/4 mile times?? Not one. The fastest I saw was a 12.0@114 or something. There are dozens of S2000's (remember, not even a drag car to begin with, better suited for twisty roads) in the 10's. Hundreds in the 11's and 12's. And two in the 8's.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66yYiCwHYD8

(Car has since gone 8's.) F20C, making over 750RWHP on 36psi in this video. The car runs more then 45psi now! FYI.



Minor mod for mod, yes you are correct. The GTI will gain 40-50whp from a chip alone, Turboback..probably another 15-20whp, etc. But once you start playing with the GO and not SHOW Honda's, who actually spent the time and money on the right parts.. I'm sorry, the MKV is no where near in the same catagory of straightline, or road coarse speed. It just hasn't been out long enough to have the aftermarket support the S2000 has had the benifit of having since '99. That's reality.



its going to come down to power band not power spike, which if you put the same turbo on both cars guess whats going to happen, vw will have constant power from 2500 to 7k, honda from 5500 to 8500. you should really read before criticizing another company's engine building, it's fanboys like yourself that make people look down on the honda crowd, hopefully all of the other s2k owners/drivers on this site realize this about you as well and disaccociate themselves from you so that the sh!tty attitudes of a few honda owners don't completely ruin their entire scene like you have been for years.


You know I agree with what you finished up with. But to your comments about powerbands.

A big turbo GTI will not make sufficent power from 2k-7k. That big turbo won't even make boost until 3500-4k. Let alone power. Infact, I get a kick out of how VW's have to build up their heads just to be able to gain access to their turbo's powerband. One of Honda Motors strength over VW. Most VW redline ~ 6500, no? Yet in order to gain the most out of a big turbo, the motor has to be revised to handle where the power is going to be made, I.E. 5k-7500ish (of coarse different set-ups will varry). They're not the down low torque monster they are in stock turbo form with the lag-less, pee sized KO3 turbo. Perfect example of this is my buddies Built-big turbo GLI. http://videos.streetfire.net/video/G...vid_103052.htm
That puppy makes waiting for VTEC seem like nothing.

And yet thats why boosted Honda's are so hard to catch on say a highway roll. They continusly make more and more power until redline. And considered the way they are geared so agressivly, they pull through gears with out boost fall of.

Anyway, in the end to each his own. Anything can be made fast with the right parts and enough money spent.

[fastgti]

simplyrevs and silverstonejedi, you are sitting here bashing people that say they have beaten s2k. i did not say anything at first hoping you would just shut the hell up. but i am going to bash on you. i own a 2006 sti pushing 340 HP at 6000 RPM and 300 lbs of tourqe,Perrin Headers, Perrin Up-Pipe, Perrin Down Pipe, Perrin Turbo Back Exhaust, Cobb Access Port V2 , K&N Cold Air Intake, running Stage 2 on the access port. and i am damn sure you aint got **** on me with your little s2k, so if you want to keep going with this than i will go farther until you stop all your trash talking about it. if you do not like the ***ing GTIs than get the *** off of the forum. we are here to have fun and if you want to start **** than you do not need to be here.

[D.Light]

If the fastest run you've seen an MKV run was a 12 flat look harder there are MKIV's out there tagging low elevens, the guy I'm talking about did that with bogging 2nd and blowing off boost hoses in 4th, as far as VW reliability, slap rods on and it can hold over 500 to the front wheels daily with 0 problems, I'm just saying that when you guys slap on boost thats a fairly unfair advantage wouldn't you agree? I mean stock we are made to have power with boost you aren't, and you have to know that boost is arguably the best mod you can do for pretty much any car let alone well tuned sports coupes, my point being if you slap on a turbo that is made spec. for the honda's power band versus slapping on a turbo made for the vw's power band I still honestly will give the edge to vw, simply because to me peak hp doesn't mean sh!t, thats why so many people switch from our k03 turbo, yeah it'll peak at about 250 but thats for like 10 rpms then it drops off, this is how I see the s2k it will sharply hit high numbers but way up in the rpm range, granted it holds it till redline but thats still 1k-1500 at most

[DasBohan]

Alright FINE ILL ADMIT IT!!!!! s2ks have a cooler antanna! THERE ARE YOU HAPPY?! YOU WIN ! YOU ALWAYS WIN! HONDAS FOR LIFE! I heart JAPAN! RICE!!!!!! RICE!!!!! RICE!!!!

Now that I got that out of my system. I will ALWAYS love a euro. And no s2k crew can make that car look anywhere CLOSE to as good as a GTi of ANY year. (I FIGURE since you guys capitalize everything important, id try it too, it looks good.) lets see it, BRING THEM COMMENTS! LETS RACE! TALK THAT SMACK! Because ill prolly never see you in my life...and shockingly...I really dont give a $hit because you dont drive what I drive.

[Jyden]

I can move my elbows and shoulders in my car. I'm happy winning with just that.

Besides, I don't get confused with a Miata on occaision.

Honest to god I love Japanese Imports and would gladly take any RX-7, GSX, Mitsu GTO...hell, I'd take the street worthy rally cars in all their glory (STI/EVO). But I love my MkIV and the crowd, most of all cause they have style.

[D.Light]

DTM>JDM all day every day, gimme an rs4 on bags over an nsx with a spoon body kit and underglow any day

[Jyden]

I swear if I see "JDM Tuned" on one more car I'm gonna tear it off.

[fastgti]

what is "JDM"?

[Jyden]

Japanese Domestic Market

[SimplyRevs]

Originally Posted by fastgti

simplyrevs and silverstonejedi, you are sitting here bashing people that say they have beaten s2k. i did not say anything at first hoping you would just shut the hell up. but i am going to bash on you. i own a 2006 sti pushing 340 HP at 6000 RPM and 300 lbs of tourqe,Perrin Headers, Perrin Up-Pipe, Perrin Down Pipe, Perrin Turbo Back Exhaust, Cobb Access Port V2 , K&N Cold Air Intake, running Stage 2 on the access port. and i am damn sure you aint got **** on me with your little s2k, so if you want to keep going with this than i will go farther until you stop all your trash talking about it. if you do not like the ***ing GTIs than get the *** off of the forum. we are here to have fun and if you want to start **** than you do not need to be here.

First of all I'm not sitting here bashing anyone. I stated facts from another side of the party. I didn't say oh VW sucks, and honda rocks, now did I? All I did is provide some factual evidence that some of you may or may not have been aware of.

Ans WTF does your WRX have anything to do with this? You need a hug or something because your not being involved in this converstion buddy?

This is not a GTI ONLY FORUM idiot! It's not "If you do not worship the GTI, then GTFO.com". Real cool there bud. I can see you have an open mind..

Originally Posted by dlight88

If the fastest run you've seen an MKV run was a 12 flat look harder there are MKIV's out there tagging low elevens, the guy I'm talking about did that with bogging 2nd and blowing off boost hoses in 4th, as far as VW reliability, slap rods on and it can hold over 500 to the front wheels daily with 0 problems, I'm just saying that when you guys slap on boost thats a fairly unfair advantage wouldn't you agree? I mean stock we are made to have power with boost you aren't, and you have to know that boost is arguably the best mod you can do for pretty much any car let alone well tuned sports coupes, my point being if you slap on a turbo that is made spec. for the honda's power band versus slapping on a turbo made for the vw's power band I still honestly will give the edge to vw, simply because to me peak hp doesn't mean sh!t, thats why so many people switch from our k03 turbo, yeah it'll peak at about 250 but thats for like 10 rpms then it drops off, this is how I see the s2k it will sharply hit high numbers but way up in the rpm range, granted it holds it till redline but thats still 1k-1500 at most

Reading complete sentences and comprehension seems to get the better of you.

I said the fastest MK5 I have seen runs a 12.0, compared to the 8.6 the S2000's have run. Please tell me how the F*** that has anything to do with what an MK4 is doing?!?!? Read before you comment next time.

Originally Posted by DasBohan

Alright FINE ILL ADMIT IT!!!!! s2ks have a cooler antanna! THERE ARE YOU HAPPY?! YOU WIN ! YOU ALWAYS WIN! HONDAS FOR LIFE! I heart JAPAN! RICE!!!!!! RICE!!!!! RICE!!!!

Now that I got that out of my system. I will ALWAYS love a euro. And no s2k crew can make that car look anywhere CLOSE to as good as a GTi of ANY year. (I FIGURE since you guys capitalize everything important, id try it too, it looks good.) lets see it, BRING THEM COMMENTS! LETS RACE! TALK THAT SMACK! Because ill prolly never see you in my life...and shockingly...I really dont give a because you dont drive what I drive.

Then you my friend are secluding yourself to only one thing, and I feel bad for you. Having that kind of an attitude in this car world we love to play in, just doesn't cut it. You will have more enemys then friends with that kind of mentality. It's like the virgin girl whos only been with 1 person in her life. Yeah, sure the sex may be great to her, but what does she really know?! But whatever suits yourself.

Originally Posted by Jyden

I can move my elbows and shoulders in my car. I'm happy winning with just that.

Besides, I don't get confused with a Miata on occaision.

Honest to god I love Japanese Imports and would gladly take any RX-7, GSX, Mitsu GTO...hell, I'd take the street worthy rally cars in all their glory (STI/EVO). But I love my MkIV and the crowd, most of all cause they have style.

Hey dude, thats cool. Everyone is entitled to what they like, right? No one should tell you what to like. You like it for a reason, and thats that.

[fastgti]

thanks Jyden

[fastgti]

simplyrevs i miss inturputed the the post you put on and i appoligize for that. for everything else i appoligize to becaue i thought yu were bashing. so i am putting out in public becasue i was wrong. and i will admit when i am worng. but for silverstonejedi i do not appoligize because what he said was out of line. and that is why i pit that post up.

sorry for that

[boostedJTi]

Originally Posted by Silverstonejedi

Set it up locally and I'll show you what an s2k can do...Stop talking crap over the internet and man up...Socal here....

You can stop right there. Read a couple pages back. I threw an offer up. NO ONE has maned up and contacted me since. and hell since you wanna talk so much sh!t, man up your s2k with my rx7. You have the balls for that? I mean hell, it's only a ****in 2 rotor. I can happily say, your s2k would get it's ass whooped any and everyday of the week. Why am I on a GTi forum when I own an rx7? Because I owned a GTi. I am also good friends with a few people here, and actually roll with them on the street. You know how many s2k's I've raced with my GTi? You know how many beat me? Not one. And now, with my 2nd rx7, you think that sh!t ass honda can run with me? You name any s2k, and I can give you an rx7 that can eat it. And the saddest part to every bit of this, your motor has more output.

[Teh Chr!s]

Elohel

[CMAK]

Originally Posted by fastgti

thanks everything should be good. i just hope the display is in english and not dutch. every thing is good in iraq. thanks for your comment. its good to hear some one saysomething some times.

btw. what do you go for up grades

not sure what what do you go up for grades means lol

and also allow me to add that when you buy a honda you get a honda and when you buy a vdub you dont end of story

[SimplyRevs]

Originally Posted by fastgti

simplyrevs i miss inturputed the the post you put on and i appoligize for that. for everything else i appoligize to becaue i thought yu were bashing. so i am putting out in public becasue i was wrong. and i will admit when i am worng. but for silverstonejedi i do not appoligize because what he said was out of line. and that is why i pit that post up.

sorry for that

Cool, good stuff.

[boostedJTi]

Originally Posted by Teh Chr!s

Elohel

I have only one thing left for you Chris...

[fastgti]

i ment what mods do you have on your gti.

and once again i am sorry simplyrevs

[CMAK]

nope my parents found out that i was racing with my buddie at an industrial park. we were hauling ass, i went onto a four wheel slide at about 85mph i forgot that i had turned traction control off earlier cause i was drag racing. they found my camcorder with all that crazy **** on it. so i might even lose my v dub and my license for awhile. i was planning on apr stage II

[fastgti]

dang that is really crappy. i did **** like that when i was young too. but it was in a caddi. i did loose my liscens and the car for about 8 months. and that was just my parents finding out. nno law involved

[D.Light]

Originally Posted by SimplyRevs

Reading complete sentences and comprehension seems to get the better of you.
I said the fastest MK5 I have seen runs a 12.0, compared to the 8.6 the S2000's have run. Please tell me how the F*** that has anything to do with what an MK4 is doing?!?!? Read before you comment next time.

Sir I did read and I understood it quite well, let me give you a bit of background on myself, i drive a mkiv, read about mkiv's, work on mkiv's, give advice on mkiv's; pretty much eat, sleep, and breathe mkiv's.That being said it would stand to reason that I know more about the mkiv scene then the mkv, now as your friends (and maybe you I'm not sure on that one) have eluded to earlier the V should be faster then the iv mod for mod due to the increase in displacement and better tuning, now this being known and previously stated, If I say that I know of Mkiv's running low 11's it would only stand to reason that a car that is better tuned with a larger motor from the factory would be more capable than a car that is undertuned with a smaller engine. To me my reading comp and reasoning skills are spot on. Not trying to insult you just lettin ya know what I meant, just an FYI I take your opinions, stories, experiences etc. into account much more earnestly then those of the other s2k guys on here

[D.Light]

Originally Posted by fastgti

simplyrevs i miss inturputed the the post you put on and i appoligize for that. for everything else i appoligize to becaue i thought yu were bashing. so i am putting out in public becasue i was wrong. and i will admit when i am worng. but for silverstonejedi i do not appoligize because what he said was out of line. and that is why i pit that post up.

sorry for that

Thats because silverstonedouchebag whatever is a lonely c*ck sucker, a poor representation of any car group, and generally an unpleasent person, in short he is basically this guy

[Jyden]

Originally Posted by SimplyRevs

Hey dude, thats cool. Everyone is entitled to what they like, right? No one should tell you what to like. You like it for a reason, and thats that.

Well, I only say that cause I test drove one. At 6' 1" it wasn't my cup of tea and even with the top down I couldn't wait to get out of the car. Albeit, it's made in *** for a somewhat shorter crowd so...

But eh, it wasn't the worst ride I've ever had, and might have been more fun had the lady not have questioned my reasoning for getting every bit of use out of the 9000 RPM redline (she freaked), I might have had more fun, but in the end it's just my preference and general dislike for the horrid name given to all Hondas thanks to the idiots who decided to ruin it for the whole brand, much how silverstone has proven compared to how you handle yourself for the most part simplyrevs.

Oh, and torque deprived is probably the biggest reason.

[D.Light]

Seriously though if it was just you simplyrevs I think it'd be awesome for this site and s2k owners in general, I mean you conduct yourself well, stear clear of insults, bring valid arguments and opinions, don't issue challenges from across the country, generally you rep your brand well, hell if you're ever in fl. look me up we'll grab a beer, shoot the sh!t, talk shop whatever, if more honda owners were like you they'd get a lot more respect IMO

[boostedJTi]

Originally Posted by dlight88

Seriously though if it was just you simplyrevs I think it'd be awesome for this site and s2k owners in general, I mean you conduct yourself well, stear clear of insults, bring valid arguments and opinions, don't issue challenges from across the country, generally you rep your brand well, hell if you're ever in fl. look me up we'll grab a beer, shoot the sh!t, talk shop whatever, if more honda owners were like you they'd get a lot more respect IMO

precisely, my problem doesn't lie with him but the douche who decided to call everyone out.

[D.Light]

Originally Posted by boostedJTi

precisely, my problem doesn't lie with him but the douche who decided to call everyone out.

You know I got ya man, seriously if kyle turns out like capt douche face over there I'm taking his keys and turnin his si into a keychain, then of course the leg kicks will be delivered in abundance......

[boostedJTi]

If Kyle does I will do no work on his car

[D.Light]

Originally Posted by boostedJTi

If Kyle does I will do no work on his car

Oh work will be done, you know how easy it is to tear down a car made of sheet-metal, fiberglass, and zipties

[fastgti]

i knew it zipties. everyone kept tell me that i was wrong but i new they used them to build the cars

[D.Light]

How else would they get them to way 50 pounds engineering? Pffft not likely

[fastgti]

lol. that is great.

[DasBohan]

Originally Posted by SimplyRevs

Then you my friend are secluding yourself to only one thing, and I feel bad for you. Having that kind of an attitude in this car world we love to play in, just doesn't cut it. You will have more enemys then friends with that kind of mentality. It's like the virgin girl whos only been with 1 person in her life. Yeah, sure the sex may be great to her, but what does she really know?! But whatever suits yourself.

Are you having trouble detecting the SARCASM. O and by the way, I was with that virgin girl for 3 years. I can happily say she knew more positions than you can count. Just thought Id throw that out.

[DasBohan]

I really dont hate hondas haha, i was just getting pissed off after reading some of these posts. And i really dont hate JDM cars. In fact I had a Subie WRX for 2 1/2 years. I loved that car and raced the **** out of it. I just really hate how certain people think theyre better than you. And i have yet to meet a s2k owner that has treated me with respect so call me bias. I went to a couple meets with my Subie and they all called me a little kid. I mean I was 16 then but still, I knew a lot about cars and I had my wrx running well. Every vw meet I have been to i have been treated well and respected. I just feel like the euro scene is so much more...accepting. If there are any s2ks or hondas out there that want to come to one of my vw meets, please i encourage it and hope to be proved wrong, you will not be kicked out. We have 2 350zs, 1 s13, 2 300zxs, 2 mustangs, and 3 stis. And we still call ourselves a vw meet.

[boostedJTi]

DasB, you notice how the rather civilized s2k owner sticks around but whenever i bring up the rx7 the others run off? It's because they realize that we actually have a backbone here, a friendship beyond what most consider... I have everyones back here, and am not afraid to jump in the middle of things when it gets carried on... Always how i've been treated in the euro scene so I continue it...

Simplyrevs is a cool guy in my book and is more than welcome to stick around.

[southernGTI]

boostedJTi is a 7 owner i see...nice. How long have you been apart of the rotary scene? Look me up on either one of the forums...i am 7passu on those and supra forums. I have a 94 FD. owned it for 5 yrs and have had just about every kind of set-up. I also have alot of 2nd gen parts i need to get rid of so pm me......anyway back to the topic

[boostedJTi]

Originally Posted by southernGTI

boostedJTi is a 7 owner i see...nice. How long have you been apart of the rotary scene? Look me up on either one of the forums...i am 7passu on those and supra forums. I have a 94 FD. owned it for 5 yrs and have had just about every kind of set-up. I also have alot of 2nd gen parts i need to get rid of so pm me......anyway back to the topic

Been into the scene for about 3 years now... Can't really see myself getting rid of it either... The set up I may possibly run will be a monster... permitting I keep the FC and don't sell it to fund a BT audi...

[ECale3]

Originally Posted by DasBohan

I really dont hate hondas haha, i was just getting pissed off after reading some of these posts. And i really dont hate JDM cars. In fact I had a Subie WRX for 2 1/2 years. I loved that car and raced the **** out of it. I just really hate how certain people think theyre better than you. And i have yet to meet a s2k owner that has treated me with respect so call me bias. I went to a couple meets with my Subie and they all called me a little kid. I mean I was 16 then but still, I knew a lot about cars and I had my wrx running well. Every vw meet I have been to i have been treated well and respected. I just feel like the euro scene is so much more...accepting. If there are any s2ks or hondas out there that want to come to one of my vw meets, please i encourage it and hope to be proved wrong, you will not be kicked out. We have 2 350zs, 1 s13, 2 300zxs, 2 mustangs, and 3 stis. And we still call ourselves a vw meet.

Sorry to revive an old dead thread, i kinda stumbled into it as a result of something i found in the S2K forums over on S2Ki. Anyway, i see you're in annapolis, i'm actually in PG County and would love to have more car meets to go to. Where abouts are you meeting up? I'm running an S2000, but i like to see all kinds of cars . Shame seeing the way a few guys can give a group a negative image, most of the S2000 guys i've met are real chill people.

[Teh Chr!s]

Originally Posted by ECale3

Sorry to revive an old dead thread, i kinda stumbled into it as a result of something i found in the S2K forums over on S2Ki. Anyway, i see you're in annapolis, i'm actually in PG County and would love to have more car meets to go to. Where abouts are you meeting up? I'm running an S2000, but i like to see all kinds of cars . Shame seeing the way a few guys can give a group a negative image, most of the S2000 guys i've met are real chill people.

No Problem At All With Reviving An Old Thread ... And Ive Also Met Quite A Few Honda Guys That Are Really Laid Back .... As I Said B4 ... I Dont Hate On People Just B/c They Drive Hondas ... Only Have Hate For The Ones Like The Guys Who Blew This Thread Up To Be What It Is Now And Wreckless Driving Rice Boys ...Dont Get Me Wrong ... I Love To Street Race And Ill Run Anything That Wants To Have A Go .... But Trying That In Traffic Is Not Kool Like Most of The Guys Around Where I Live Will Do

[boostedJTi]

People up there are idiots Chris, we both know this first hand...

On a side note, how many s2k's have you killed up to date?