Oil Consumption Problem

[vdubber]

Anyone having issues/problems with oil consumption, sucking it down, burning oil, etc.? I am, and at only 8,200 miles (with 3 oil changes!)

[xcrazydx]

Yep completely normal.. Search a little bit around and you'll read all about it guzzlin down oil. Tip...Check ur oil VERY frequently.

[banditscout]

Oil should be checked weekly. Ideally you'd check it every day before your first drive. Turbocharged vehicles tend to be on the thirsty side.

[zeonic]

i change it out every 3k just to be safe. gets expensive though....

[banditscout]

Yeah...I usually change it out even more often that 3k. I've been having it changed every 2k. Call me crazy, but being good about changing your oil is probably one of the best things you can do to take care of your fast. Without oil, especially decently clean oil, you're not going anywhere "FAST."

[zeonic]

mwhahahahahaha

bandit made a funny

[zeonic]

totally agree with you though.

[vdubber]

how can this degree of oil consumption be deemed "normal"? i'm driving a stock gti, no mods whatsoever. drive it on the hwy at crusing spds of 70-80mph, rpms b/t 2-3. 90 mi. round-trip/day/ about 500 mi./wk., about 1,500-2,000 mi./month.

if sucking down oil like this is "normal", then there's something definitely wrong w/ this engine. Your thoughts? Any mechanics out there? Thanks!

[hold em gti]

While checking my oil a few days ago I noticed a gooey greyish-tan substance on the bottom of the oil filler cap and on the cover underneath the cap. Anybody ever see this stuff on their cap? The oil looks normal on the dipstick. The only time I've seen anything like that is when oil tries to mix with water. I've put in about half a quart and I'm headed for my 5000 mile change next week and will tell the service dept. about the gunk. Any opinions on this matter? Thanks.

[boostedJTi]

I almost feel bad for you mkv owners... My mkiv rarely needed oil, and if it did it was just a tiny bit... Hell, even just ran it 6k miles (fully synthetic) without an oil change and it ran fine...

[zqoot1]

once u use Synthetic oil (i.e: Mobil 1) expect to add 200mL every 2 weeks

[moniz]

Originally Posted by hold em gti

While checking my oil a few days ago I noticed a gooey greyish-tan substance on the bottom of the oil filler cap and on the cover underneath the cap. Anybody ever see this stuff on their cap? The oil looks normal on the dipstick. The only time I've seen anything like that is when oil tries to mix with water. I've put in about half a quart and I'm headed for my 5000 mile change next week and will tell the service dept. about the gunk. Any opinions on this matter? Thanks.

I noticed the same thing on mine as well when I was topping up my oil. (the amount of oil My Fast eats freaked me out at first too, until I read that's par for the course when turbos especially during their first couple thousand K's)

[vdubber]

Moniz. Hold 'Em GTI:

I also saw the same thing on mine - that whitish-gray gooey substance around the underside of the oil fill cap. What gives? Is it true that water has mixed with the oil and if so, how would this/could this happen? I have this problem in addition to the oil burning. *W&$%^*(&$#^!!!!!!!!!!!

[mikey3117]

Do most MKV GTI's do this? I purchased mine with about 12k miles on it and I have been checking the oil every 2k or so....it doesn't use any....?

[VEGAS FAHRENHEIT]

No problem here either (so far)....My Audi S4 had the oil problem though.

[voodoo]

the car, especially stock, should not eat oil. That is a sign of crankcase over-pressurization (bad pcv valve), bad valve stem or turbo seals, or a blown head gasket.

[mops]

I guess it is good to see that others are having oil consumption problems. I was getting worried.

It still does seem excessive... My 2007 GTI has 20k miles and it is going through a quart every thousand miles or so. Not only excessive but environmentally un-friendly.

[voodoo]

After a little over 11k miles on my 08, I can safely say that my fast does not burn any oil. And I change my oil at the recommended intervals.

[Craten]

....oil problems 'eh? I've got nearly 9,000 on my '07 and never had to add a drop of oil. I use synthentic. I'm thinkin' it's how a person treats their fast...letting it warm up a tad before you take off...giving it a little TLC instead of ram-roddin' the thing...you know....being one w/your fast...lol.

[Craten]

I meant to say 19,000

[moniz]

I just got a recent oil change and mentioned the oil consumption problem. My car has 24,0000KM. Apparently the tech told me that even when the oil level is below the fill level , there is still plenty of oil in the crankcase, because the dip stick does not go down to the bottom of the pan. Apparently when the level is low on the dip stick, it's only really down about 3/4 of a litre. Now I know turbos burn a little bit of oil normally. Still, they asked me to bring back for a check of the level after 3000km. What responses have any of you had when you've mentioned it at your service appointments

[moniz]

Originally Posted by Craten

....oil problems 'eh? I've got nearly 9,000 on my '07 and never had to add a drop of oil. I use synthentic. I'm thinkin' it's how a person treats their fast...letting it warm up a tad before you take off...giving it a little TLC instead of ram-roddin' the thing...you know....being one w/your fast...lol.

I don't abuse My Fast at all. I keep mentioning to the dealer but they seem to think it's normal. My Fast is currently a lease and I would like to buy it out, but they got to take care of this first. I'm going to keep pressing the issue. Since my last oil change, I put on less than 1000 k and was already down about a litre. They seemed to brush it off as if the service guy maybe did not fill it up all the way, so they topped it off. Like I said, I'll keep pressing the issue.

[moniz]

Just trying to revive this thread. So any one with a MkV GTi with high mileage and how is your oil consumption? My buddy got rid of his 2007 after about 67,000km cause all of a sudden it started drinking a lot of oil. He was going to be out of warranty soon(80,000km) and VW was giving him the "it's normal" routine, but he didn't want to chance it. Mine is a lease due in 2011. I really love the car and I've got about 34000km on it right now. I was thinking about buying it out, but this oil consumption problem is bugging me. I don't want to buy out the car and have to rebuild the engine at 200,000km.

So any high milage MkV, and how's your oil consumption?

[CMAK]

i have 15000 miles and no oil problems to date

[pawcio]

Originally Posted by hold em gti

While checking my oil a few days ago I noticed a gooey greyish-tan substance on the bottom of the oil filler cap and on the cover underneath the cap. Anybody ever see this stuff on their cap? The oil looks normal on the dipstick. The only time I've seen anything like that is when oil tries to mix with water. I've put in about half a quart and I'm headed for my 5000 mile change next week and will tell the service dept. about the gunk. Any opinions on this matter? Thanks.

That greyish-tan stuff, thats sorta like yogurt is the result of water mixing with the oil. It happens all the time, but normally you can see that stuff when you do a lot of city driving. To get rid of it and or keep it from coming back you need to take your car on some highway driving for an extended period of time. Even though its not an immediate danger to the car its probably a good idea to take the car on a nice long highway ride once in a while.

[Fap1031]

I have a 2006 GLI that I bought in August of 06. I have had nothing but problems with it. When I bought the car I felt confident in buying it because I thought Jetta had a good reputation. I was definitely let down. It has been consuming so much oil. I admit I know nothing about cars, but I never thought I would have to put 1 to 2 quarts of oil in the car in between oil changes. I think thats crazy! Im a 22 yr old female (not saying that all girls know nothing about cars). I never even knew how to check the oil level before buying this car, but had no choice but to learn. When I bought it I loved it but now I just want someone to take it off my hands. The dealership won't do anything for me. They say it's burning more than it should but not enough to change the engine. Anyone have any ideas to help with my never-ending headache?

[moniz]

Originally Posted by Fap1031

I have a 2006 GLI that I bought in August of 06. I have had nothing but problems with it. When I bought the car I felt confident in buying it because I thought Jetta had a good reputation. I was definitely let down. It has been consuming so much oil. I admit I know nothing about cars, but I never thought I would have to put 1 to 2 quarts of oil in the car in between oil changes. I think thats crazy! Im a 22 yr old female (not saying that all girls know nothing about cars). I never even knew how to check the oil level before buying this car, but had no choice but to learn. When I bought it I loved it but now I just want someone to take it off my hands. The dealership won't do anything for me. They say it's burning more than it should but not enough to change the engine. Anyone have any ideas to help with my never-ending headache?

This is exactly what I'm afraid of! So far this is the only problem I've had with the car and it's giving me that ticking time bomb feeling. Like I've stated before, it's a lease so I may just end up handing it back in, paying the mileage penalty and wash my hands of the whole thing and go back to a Honda, since I have never had any oil consumption issues and the previous 3 I've owned.

As far as I'm concerned, I can accept on a turbo engine, less than a quart oil burning between oil changes, but mine appears to be 2 quarts every 3000km which is double their supposed tolerance of 1 quart per 3000km. I'll keep pushing the dealer.

[TMCG]

I have an 06 GTI stock sucks oil like it were a camel back from a long trek! I have had a lot of vehicles in my day and some of them have had a lot and I mean a LOT of miles on em, (last Mercedes 300E 260K mi.) and none of them have used as much oil as this puppy! Runs great but don't take your eye off the dipstick. On average about 1qt every 1k mi. If my dealer tells me its normal it will just make it clear to me they are covering up a design issue.

[moniz]

Originally Posted by TMCG

I have an 06 GTI stock sucks oil like it were a camel back from a long trek! I have had a lot of vehicles in my day and some of them have had a lot and I mean a LOT of miles on em, (last Mercedes 300E 260K mi.) and none of them have used as much oil as this puppy! Runs great but don't take your eye off the dipstick. On average about 1qt every 1k mi. If my dealer tells me its normal it will just make it clear to me they are covering up a design issue.

That's my thinking too. I mean how can they justify this much oil disappearing, even on a turbo. I've pretty much made up my mind and given up on VW based on this experience. I really do love the car and the way it drives, but based on my previous car experience, there's no way I can own this car and not wonder, what else will go wrong as a result of this problem. Back to Honda for me.(commence razzing) :-)

[pawcio]

thought i'd post this link here just for those who didn't read the other thread on "Oil Filter Housing Leak"

http://myfastgti.com/volkswagen/showthread.php/oil-filter-housing-leak-6518.html?t=6518

[moniz]

Originally Posted by pawcio

thought i'd post this link here just for those who didn't read the other thread on "Oil Filter Housing Leak"

http://myfastgti.com/volkswagen/showthread.php/oil-filter-housing-leak-6518.html?t=6518

Info not found when I click on link

[Grim Specter]

For those that can't get the link to work the here is the thread I posted copied and pasted:

For the last month or so I have been trying to figure out why my car was loosing oil so fast. First I thought it was just burning it. Then after my first oil change I discovered leakage from the oil filter housing. Thought that was only a bad previous installation. After a while I checked up on the housing and realized that was the problem after all. The only reason I am posting this is for those who seem to be loosing oil like crazy. I have heard many bad things about these drop-in oil filter housings, so those that are worried, CHECK YOUR OIL FILTER HOUSING!! That might be the only problem.

The leak was coming from the orange plug used to drain the oil from the filter. Its under the screwed on cap. If you notice any fresh oil in that cap or around that area, or actually anywhere, YOU HAVE A LEAK!

Just so you know the solution was just a replacement of the whole oil filter housing because the drain plug was defective. Another issue might be just the drain plug left partially in the open position.

[banditscout]

Just FYI, my service guy told me the car typically will consume 1 qt, per every 1k miles... Just though everyone should know this. Besides, we should all be checking oil levels weekly anyway.

[rohara]

Originally Posted by Grim Specter

For those that can't get the link to work the here is the thread I posted copied and pasted:

For the last month or so I have been trying to figure out why my car was loosing oil so fast. First I thought it was just burning it. Then after my first oil change I discovered leakage from the oil filter housing. Thought that was only a bad previous installation. After a while I checked up on the housing and realized that was the problem after all. The only reason I am posting this is for those who seem to be loosing oil like crazy. I have heard many bad things about these drop-in oil filter housings, so those that are worried, CHECK YOUR OIL FILTER HOUSING!! That might be the only problem.

The leak was coming from the orange plug used to drain the oil from the filter. Its under the screwed on cap. If you notice any fresh oil in that cap or around that area, or actually anywhere, YOU HAVE A LEAK!

Just so you know the solution was just a replacement of the whole oil filter housing because the drain plug was defective. Another issue might be just the drain plug left partially in the open position.

My 2008 2.0 GTI seems to be using a quart about every 2k miles or so, it has about 17k miles on it. Anyone else have this successfully fixed by having dealer replace filter housing? (see quote) thx

[dreamer379]

I own an 07 GTI, and I recently hit 35k. I also have to add oil more frequently then EVER expected. I drove from Pittsburgh to Annapolis (about 300 miles one way) now going like 75-85 most of the way. I needed to add oil when i got there. I can't believe this is normal. My aunt owns a dealership for VW, I'll ask her and let everyone know

[sayyid1]

Originally Posted by mops

I guess it is good to see that others are having oil consumption problems. I was getting worried.

It still does seem excessive... My 2007 GTI has 20k miles and it is going through a quart every thousand miles or so. Not only excessive but environmentally un-friendly.

Yes I got worried and took my car in for an oil consumption test. 1 quart in 1000 miles. But my car is stage 2+.

I think Im going to put the factory intake on and factory pcv and take it back and see how it does in the consumption test.

Note : I'm at 41K

[TMCG]

At the rate these puppy's go thru oil you could make the case that all you need to do is change the filter every 3-5k top it off and call it an oil change!!

[DirtGhost]

Boy VW has you guys sucked in right . You will beleive anything. Sucking a little of oil should be normal. I had a TDI brfore this crappy GTI and it never sucked oil up like this thing does. And it did have a turbo too. 1 Quart between oil changes is on the crappy end of the stick.

[sayyid1]

update. I had the BSH Stage 1 PCV fix and that was what was causing my oil consumption problems. I guess under backpressure it sucks oil into the engine. I replaced with the newest version of the PCV valve from VW and it seems to have solved the problem. Ill let you guys know for sure in a few thousand miles.

[xcrazydx]

Im at almost 30k miles now and I dont suck down as much oil as u guys. I do about a 1/2 quart every 10k. I am running a catch can though.